Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

03/18/2008 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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SCR 15-AMEND UNIFORM RULES: STANDING COMMITTEES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:02:10 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN announced that the first  order of business was CS FOR                                                               
SENATE  CONCURRENT RESOLUTION  NO. 15(SED),  Proposing amendments                                                               
to the Uniform Rules of  the Alaska State Legislature relating to                                                               
standing committees.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:02:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TIM   LAMPKIN,  Staff,   Senator  Gary   Stevens,  Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  SCR 15  on  behalf  of Senator  Stevens,                                                               
sponsor  by request  of the  Joint Legislative  Education Funding                                                               
Task Force.  The proposed  resolution, he explained, would set up                                                               
a standing  committee to address  issues related to  education in                                                               
the state.  He  noted that Alaska is one of  only three states in                                                               
the Union  that does  not presently  have a  [standing] committee                                                               
for  education, and  he  said  there is  a  spread  sheet in  the                                                               
committee packet that supports that statement.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:03:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMPKIN,  in  response to  a  question  from  Representative                                                               
Roses,  explained that  there are  a number  of Senators  who are                                                               
convinced  that the  proposed standing  education committees  for                                                               
both houses  will be cumbersome and  will not work, and  thus are                                                               
responsible for  adding a  sunset clause so  that [on  "the first                                                               
day  of the  First Regular  Session of  the Twenty-Eighth  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature"]  the new standing education  committees would                                                               
be  "reabsorbed"  by  the  House  Health,  Education  and  Social                                                               
Services Standing Committee and  the Senate Health, Education and                                                               
Social Services  Standing Committee.   In response to  a question                                                               
from  Chair Lynn,  he proffered  that the  decision of  committee                                                               
members as  to whether that  sunset should  be in the  bill would                                                               
most likely be determined based on  whether or not they think the                                                               
idea  of creating  separate education  standing  committees is  a                                                               
good one.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  stated that  he agrees with  the proposed                                                               
sunset, because there  are so many areas  where education, social                                                               
service, and health  policies intertwine, and it  is important to                                                               
"keep some  of those  things in context."   Furthermore,  he said                                                               
most  of health  and social  service policies,  as broad  as they                                                               
are, really center on about  four or five different topics, while                                                               
education policy "is generally settled in the funding process."                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:06:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DOLL stated that she  does not think the sunset is                                                               
needed.  She  said she thinks it is important  to separate issues                                                               
of education from those of health and social services.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:06:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOHNSON   said  he  agrees   with  Representative                                                               
Coghill that  education policy is "centered  around funding," and                                                               
he expressed his  hope that the committee  would "start centering                                                               
education around results."   He stated, "So, I see  this as being                                                               
an opportunity  for us  to take  that next step  that we  need to                                                               
take to bring  in the home schooling and to  do the other things,                                                               
and to pay the type of attention  we need to, to hold the schools                                                               
accountable  for the  money that  we've been  spending all  these                                                               
years."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMPKIN  offered his  understanding that  the purpose  of the                                                               
Joint  Legislative Education  Funding  Task Force  in creating  a                                                               
standing  education   committee  was   to  separate   the  fiscal                                                               
conversations from discussions of policy.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:08:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES,  as  a member  of  the  Joint  Legislative                                                               
Education  Funding Task  Force, confirmed  that typically,  about                                                               
the  only thing  discussed regarding  education is  funding.   He                                                               
added,  "And by  having  worked  to try  to  put a  multiple-year                                                               
funding mechanism  in place, to where  those conversations didn't                                                               
have  to  be  constantly  revisited  every  year,  we  felt  like                                                               
creating a  standing education committee  would allow us  to have                                                               
some   more  substantive   conversations  about   addressing  the                                                               
concerns that  people have ...."   He mentioned  getting students                                                               
to  the point  where  they  can compete  on  a  global scale  and                                                               
concerns regarding  the university's graduation system.   He said                                                               
this is  his second year  serving on the House  Health, Education                                                               
and Social  Services Standing Committee,  and the bills  heard in                                                               
that committee run  10:1, social and medical  issues to education                                                               
issues.  He said he does  not think a sunset clause is necessary,                                                               
because the legislature  can revisit the issue in  five years and                                                               
decide on  its own  whether or not  to continue  running standing                                                               
education committees in both houses.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:10:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  moved to adopt  Amendment 1, which  read as                                                               
follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL objected for discussion purposes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES clarified that  Amendment 1 would remove the                                                               
sunset clause.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL removed  his  objection  to Amendment  1,                                                               
explaining  that  his  previously  expressed  opinion  about  the                                                               
sunset  clause is  not strongly  held.   There  being no  further                                                               
objections, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:12:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  moved to report CSSCR  15(SED), as amended,                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.   There being no  objection, HCS CSSCR
15(STA)  was reported  out of  the House  State Affairs  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                

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